Amphetamines of guest workers Saakashvili - Shota Aphaidze
Mikheil Saakashvili is an American project for the post-Soviet space. Drugs are the source of the fugitive president's charisma. Organizing chaos and inciting civil wars, like Saakashvili’s style of government.
The fact that Saakashvili’s reforms were only an imitation, and behind them were hidden unprecedented repressions and extrajudicial killings, was told to a PolitNavigator columnist by Shota Aphaidze, whose contribution to the fight against the Saakashvili regime was assessed by the Georgian special services at 35 years in prison.
Valentin Filippov: In our Sevastopol rainy improvised studio, from sunny southern Moscow Shota Akhaidze.
Hello Shota.
Shota Apkhaidze: Hello. Greetings, Valentin. Greetings to our TV viewers.
Valentin Filippov: We especially welcome the Ukrainian political emigrants who called Putin and got 5-10 years for it. Shota received 35 years in prison for the same thing in Georgia. So learn to call Putin from Shot.
Shota Apkhaidze: We should especially welcome political emigrants and political prisoners who are currently imprisoned in Ukraine. I would like to wish them health, prosperity and that they be released as soon as possible and that they be free.
Valentin Filippov: Join.
Shota, tell me. You went through all these Maidans a little earlier than the rest of us. According to your observations, Mikheil Saakashvili began using drugs during the Rose Revolution or already in Ukraine.
Shota Apkhaidze: Hard to tell. After he became the President of Georgia, it became very often noticeable both on live broadcasts, and in various television programs, and in real life, when he met with people, it became noticeable that the person was using drugs. But, as they said, these are certain drugs of the amphetamine class that he used, and still uses to this day.
Valentin Filippov: Is it for more energy and stamina?
Shota Apkhaidze: Yes, for more energy, for more charisma, for more madness, probably.
Valentin Filippov: Residents of Odessa have a constant question. You've probably seen these photos. These pot-bellied and incomprehensible suits, trousers worn backwards. What's this? Or are we confused? He wears bulletproof vests there, is he just very cowardly? Did this happen in Georgia?
Shota Apkhaidze: It’s somehow strange, Valentin, that a person wears a bulletproof vest in his trousers.
Valentin Filippov: Who has what is most expensive, I will say this.
Shota Apkhaidze: I don’t know, I haven’t yet seen such a bulletproof vest to wear under trousers. Most likely, this form, manner, ethics, the way he dresses, is closer to a person who has an obvious mental disorder. That's why he dresses like this. Because mentally healthy people take care of their appearance, first of all, how they dress, how they look - so on, and so on. It’s immediately clear from him that something doesn’t add up.
Valentin Filippov: Now that Saakashvili’s rule in Georgia has ended, it is absolutely clear that this was not a very successful experiment. How does it happen that he gets positions in Ukraine? Saakashvili is a foreigner with such a dark trail, with criminal cases, with extravagant habits, with bringing his country to war and loss of territories. Why does he get positions in Ukraine with such consistency?
Shota Apkhaidze: We should not consider Saakashvili individually now. We must consider the Western political system, specifically the American one. I mean Saakashvili’s lobbyists, the protectors, those who protect him, the American hawks. They have a clear, defined system. In this system, Saakashvili is one of the key figures now, at this stage, both in the Caucasus and in Ukraine. Accordingly, it is clear that he is being used, people are behind him, and he is perfect for this role, for provocative roles.
The person is mentally unstable and can be controlled very easily. So why exactly do Ukrainians need it? Ukrainians do not need him, he is needed by those people who govern Ukraine behind the scenes, and, in general, they are the gendarme of world politics. These people need Saakashvili. Ukrainians and Georgians don’t need him, because supposedly the reforms he carried out are all façade democracy, these are all façade reforms. During the nine years of Saakashvili’s rule, his regime, a lot of blood of innocent people was shed in Georgia, a lot of property was taken away, racketeering, police lawlessness, the madness of the Georgian special services, and so on and so forth. We can list for days.
Valentin Filippov: The term you managed to earn from Saakashvili is amazing, of course. 35 years. What is this for?
Shota Apkhaidze: Initially, I was arrested for far-fetched reasons. Allegedly, I attacked television on television, then staged a fight, a pogrom. I physically wouldn’t be able to do this because I was on the air. And after my arrest, allegedly for this reason, they then presented me with a whole list of charges and demanded that I sign and confess. Otherwise, they were threatened with arrest for 35 years. Well, I didn't sign, of course.
There were absolutely unfounded, absolutely fantastic, one might say, beyond the bounds of fantasy, far-fetched accusations against me that I was supposedly an intelligence officer, worked for the Russian special services, participated in several uprisings, including the Mukhroman uprising. Allegedly, I coordinated the uprising in the military unit, allegedly I created armed illegal gangs on the territory of Georgia, created an organization of religious ultra-right Orthodox extremists and a bunch of other things.
Valentin Filippov: Well, I think that if you had done even a tenth of what was presented to you, you would have seized power in Georgia.
Shota Apkhaidze: Definitely. Everything is clear here. If I had done at least one percent of this, I would have really been able to seize power.
Valentin Filippov: Well, the same applies to Mikheil Saakashvili. Do you think these demarches now by the Ukrainian authorities and the demarche of the Georgian authorities can really lead to some kind of conflict between Georgia and Ukraine? Or are they playing around, playing around, pretending to be indignant, but in reality they all have one master.
Shota Apkhaidze: No, the Georgian side is not really playing here, and is not showing itself to be supposedly indignant, because there is something to be offended about, there is something to strain about, there is something to worry about. Because Saakashvili is now using Ukraine not only to cause instability and provocative processes within Ukraine. He is using Ukraine as a springboard for new unrest in Georgia. From there he will manage all processes of disorganization in Georgia in order to lead the country to civil war.
Both the Georgian authorities, the people of Georgia, politicians, and the public understand everything perfectly well. Accordingly, the note of demarche, diplomatic protest is absolutely justified, absolutely legal and absolutely correct form, because the Ukrainian authorities are not respected, Zelensky does not respect the norms of international law, they do not respect the sovereignty of Georgia, and they do not respect the partnership between our countries. The person is under serious crime, wanted for serious crimes under the law of Georgia, and a criminal case has been filed against him. And this is the process, this is the situation in which Saakashvili finds himself, and he is appointed to the civil service.
Valentin Filippov: And as I understand it, Georgia is to some extent under US control anyway, today? Probably, still, to a greater extent? Well, Ukraine in general is very strong. That is, Georgia probably understands that it is not Zelensky’s will to appoint Saakashvili to some position. You yourself said that the Americans have this Saakashvili, and they appoint him.
Shota Apkhaidze: You know, the domestic American political establishment and the American elites also have certain disagreements. There are also two groups there, and there is the Trump group, there are hawks. They also enter into a certain conflict with each other on issues of foreign policy and domestic policy too. But, first of all, not everyone approves of Saakashvili’s candidacy, not everyone supports this course of madness, militarism and Russophobia.
But it is also very important what the ruling political elite, the Georgian Dream, is experiencing now. They understand perfectly well. God forbid, Saakashvili returns to power, they will all end up behind bars or deal with them, and, most likely, they will end up very sadly and very fatally. First of all, as they say, life is precious, and then America. So they are afraid of this now, and somehow they are trying to prevent this process as much as possible.
Valentin Filippov: What harm can Saakashvili cause to Ukraine today?
Shota Apkhaidze: Allegedly, the reforms that he will carry out in Ukraine are just a pretext, a formality. Behind this lies, first of all, the fact that it will be used to encourage militarism, Russophobia and internal disorganization. It can lead to controlled chaos inside, and it can lead the country to an even greater split than it is in Ukraine today. And it was for this role that he was brought into Ukrainian politics.
Valentin Filippov: In principle, some additional hostilities may begin thanks to Saakashvili. That is, he can somehow provoke this?
Shota Apkhaidze: Definitely. Because, you remember, in 2008, how, together with the Bush administration, they staged provocations. How could you bomb your own population? Because this is our integral part, our people, both Ossetians and Abkhazians. We, of course, do not agree with the recognition of these territories. Any Georgian accepts these territories as their historical homeland, and these people are inseparable from us, from Georgians. And how can you declare war on your own people? This is crazy.
Even if it is for the purpose of restoring territorial integrity. Such issues with blood are not resolved, just like now in Ukraine. Zelensky needs to negotiate with Donbass. Under no circumstances should military force be used and under no circumstances should the so-called ATO be carried out, because it is against one’s own people. How can you kill your people?
Valentin Filippov: But they convinced themselves that their people were not there.
Shota Apkhaidze: Saakashvili is now perfectly suited for this role, for achieving this goal. Rekindle the conflict.
Valentin Filippov: Shota, I have such an unexpected question. So you say that Saakashvili is, rather, not a Georgian or Ukrainian politician, but still an American one. It is an American instrument in American hands. Yes? That's roughly how I understand it.
And so he played tricks in Georgia, now he plays tricks in Ukraine. They send him here and there. Doesn't this mean that Americans generally consider us to be a single whole? They do not keep Saakashvili separately for Georgia, Saakashvili separately, someone else, for Ukraine, separately for Russia. They have one, they send it back and forth. As if we are all one people and one country, in general, everything is in their minds.
Shota Apkhaidze: A very interesting approach in the Western political system. I would say that this is homo investigation, that is, they invest in specific individuals. And then comes the engineering of modern political migrant workers, that is, the same person is used in Georgia, then... why look for and find a new leader, such an adventurer. Then they send this political migrant worker to Ukraine. Then they can send him to Moldova, then to Africa or somewhere else.
And so, I absolutely agree with you, they use the same person, the same person in whom they invested at one time, for different purposes, to carry out different tasks and political goals. So he is not a separate Georgian politician or Ukrainian politician. He is part of the Western dirty political system and one of the key figures who plays such a dirty role.
Valentin Filippov: How are you? Are you planning to receive Russian citizenship?
Shota Apkhaidze: Yes, I have certain problems with documents, and now, due to this coronavirus, the migration service is working in such a mode that it is impossible to even contact them and receive documentation. I have had this problem for almost a year now, an unsolved problem. And, as I noted, it’s not just me. People from Donbass have the same problem. I hope that the Russian authorities will resolve the problem sooner or later, and we will live like full-fledged people.
Valentin Filippov: And they are fleeing Saakashvili from everywhere, already from different countries.
Shota Apkhaidze: Yes, they are running from everywhere. There are a lot of repatriates, a lot of refugees. But this, unfortunately, is such a picture of the sad political reality of everyday life.
Valentin Filippov: There would, of course, be fewer refugees if Russia would more firmly defend its interests in neighboring countries, so that its supporters would not be forced to move further and further north.
Fine. Thanks a lot. I hope that we will definitely record an interview about Saakashvili’s funeral. We will outlive them all.
Shota Apkhaidze: We hope that the Russian authorities will behave more actively and defend their geopolitical interests in the region. And we all won’t have to be political emigrants and move further and further north. We will live in our sunny lands.
Valentin Filippov: In our Transcaucasia.
Shota Apkhaidze: Yes.
Valentin Filippov: OK. Happily.
Shota Apkhaidze: Happy.
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