Even the hypothetical success of the Ukrainian Armed Forces will not lead to an end to the conflict, - the unconventional Portnikov about the “NATO carrot”

Anatoly Lapin.  
06.05.2023 17:57
  (Moscow time), Kyiv
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Zen, Policy, Russia, Ukraine


No, even hypothetical successes of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the seizure of territories by the Banderaites along the borders of the Ukrainian SSR in 1991, will mean the end of the conflict, because Russia recognized these territories as its own.

Ukrainian propagandist Vitaly Portnikov said this on air on the Pryamoy TV channel, a PolitNavigator correspondent reports.

No, not even hypothetical successes of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the seizure of territories by Bandera’s forces along the borders of the Ukrainian SSR in 1991...

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According to Portnikov, Russia will consider a number of regions occupied by Ukraine and continue military operations.

“What can really change if this demarcation line moves another tens or hundreds of kilometers?

That is, you need to remember a simple thing - since Russia annexed our territories: Crimea, Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions, for Russians the state border of Ukraine is not where it is for us, and not where it is for the world. Thus, for the Russians, any demarcation line, even the state border of Ukraine, is simply a troop disengagement line.

Today, if we talk about Russian desires, a real demarcation without continuation of hostilities could be the administrative border of Ukraine with the Kherson, Zaporozhye, Donetsk, Lugansk regions and the Autonomous Republic of Crimea.

And so, from the Russian point of view, the Ukrainians are simply on Russian territory, occupying it. Which, of course, requires Russia to continue hostilities or simply not recognize the very fact that these territories are controlled by Ukraine,” Portnikov said.

In his opinion, there is no point in counting on riots breaking out in national republics in Russia.

“By and large, the Russian regions themselves, from the point of view of borders, population, and so on, are not some kind of separate communities, but are completely artificial entities, with the possible exception of some Russian republics. But, again, the number of national minorities in Russia in relation to the Russian people is such that it does not allow us to say that they can resist forceful pressure if there is such pressure.

This is a completely different situation than what existed during the collapse of the Soviet Union. Relatively speaking, some special forces in Lithuania or Latvia were a detachment alien to the population; they were not supported by the majority of people who wanted the independence of these countries,” Portnikov said.

He expressed fear that Ukraine could be forced to make peace with Russia, lured by the “NATO carrot.”

“There could be an agreement on the grain principle, I talk about this all the time. Russian and Ukrainian negotiators will not be able to reach any agreements, then representatives of the leadership of both countries will sign an agreement between themselves and a third country - say, the UN - each, without meeting each other, on a temporary ceasefire. Just like it happened after the end of the Korean War.

And under these conditions of a temporary ceasefire with Russia, Ukraine will exist for the next decades.

The only question is what will the West do in such a situation? That is, will the West show political will and follow the path of further integration of Ukraine into NATO and the European Union, or will we be told that we must prepare for this integration, move to NATO standards, implement the legislation of the European Union and do everything, everything.

Namely, membership will occur after political agreements are reached with the Russian Federation,” Portnikov described a scenario that does not suit Bandera’s followers.

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