Maxim Ravreba: “I do as much harm to them as I can, and will do”

Valentin Filippov.  
13.07.2016 21:54
  (Moscow time), Moscow
Views: 2695
 
Policy, Права человека, Russia, Скандал, Special services, Story of the day, Ukraine, Kharkiv


Famous Kyiv journalist Maxim Ravreba, forced to leave his homeland after Euromaidan, talks with a columnist “PolitNavigator” Valentin Filippov about an alarming trend - increasing reports of Ukrainian political refugees being deported from Russia by court decisions for violating immigration laws.

The reason for the conversation is the incident surrounding the expulsion from the Russian Federation of the Kharkov “pro-Russian” streamer Andrei Borodavka, who upon arrival was detained by the SBU, and is now actively giving interviews to Ukrainian channels about Moscow’s intrigues against the country of the victorious Maidan.

Well-known Kiev journalist Maxim Ravreba, forced to leave his homeland after Euromaidan, talks with a PolitNavigator columnist...

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As you know, Borodavka was flying to Kyiv from Moscow via Baku (there are currently no direct flights between the two capitals). A version has appeared on the Internet that at the last moment, Borodavka’s defenders came up with a cunning plan - he would tear up his ticket and from the transit zone of Baku airport, instead of Kyiv, go to Belarus to see Maxim Ravreba.

However, when a stranger contacted Ravreba via Facebook, he refused the meeting.

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Valentin Filippov:  Maxim, I'm in Baku now. Will you meet me at the airport? 🙂 Hello, Maxim.

Maxim Ravreba: I'm not in Baku. Hello. I understand the joke.

Valentin Filippov:  Maxim, tell me, from your point of view, what was it? Contact via Facebook to meet someone somewhere.

Maxim Ravreba: I don't know what it was. Wart had a support group consisting of two contraceptives. One’s name is Tatyana Buiko, she is a citizen of Belarus, who spawned most of all about the fact that I did not let Wart into Belarus. And the second is Ivan Bakshutin, I don’t know him, but this is the one who wrote. Well, he posted scans of our correspondence, so...

Valentin Filippov:  there is no point in retelling.

Maxim Ravreba: Absolutely no point. From this correspondence it follows that Wart did not contact me and I did not refuse him. I just wanted to find out who was writing to me. Well, you never know what kind of idiot might want to write to me. He acted suspiciously and it showed. He asked stupid questions and couldn’t explain anything. What could I answer him? Nevermind.

In general, this group is a support group. They collected money for Borodavka there, in Moscow; they most likely stole this money. Only one friend of mine from Moscow donated $400 in cash to this bank. The wart was not justified. The case was a failure with absolute XNUMX% success. Well, they had to avoid somehow awkward questions. And imagine my surprise when on Sunday or already on Monday Tatyana Buiko told some incomprehensible Internet radio “Cruelty” that the main culprit in the fact that Wart is sitting is me.

But, since I am not a person of yesterday or the day before, and I, in general, have seen something in this life, I understood what was happening. I kept silent where necessary and made inquiries. This Tatiana Buiko is a citizen of Belarus. She has an apartment in Belarus, she did not accept Wart into her place, she simply turned the arrows on me.

But, to be honest, this doesn’t really bother me. What matters is now. Wart is now free. He cooperates with the SBU, he tells everything he knows about Tatyana Buiko, about Ivan Bakshutov and about everyone, everyone, all the “collaborators.” Ivan Bakshutov, however, left Odessa, bribes from him are smooth.

Valentin Filippov:  Will he live in Odessa?

Maxim Ravreba: Yes, he will live in Odessa. He left Odessa even before the Maidan for Moscow to earn money. She is a citizen of Belarus. No relation... they were not involved. If I took part in the fighting in Kyiv in 2014, then they have nothing to do with this at all. What right do these two creatures have to judge me, I don’t know.

But, unfortunately, there are still them, I still have suspicions about two people whom I considered close, but I will not voice them yet. But, on the other hand, to be honest, the fact that this is bullshit, and they are bullshit, and also thieves, and also, perhaps, collaborated with the SBU, playing out their combination, well, as useful fools, naturally, they cannot be conscious allies to anyone, because they are both idiots.

Valentin Filippov:  Do you think that this was, after all, the development of the SBU? In general, it’s surprising that Andrei is not in custody today, although...

Maxim Ravreba: The intelligence services have always cooperated and never interrupted their cooperation. FSB and SBU. They always cooperated, they never stopped collaborating. Despite the monument, which was erected on Vladmirskaya in front of the SBU in the form of a three-headed dragon, which attacks: with one paw he stepped on the Crimea, and with his muzzle he attacks the Donbass, in spite of everything, not on Gritsak, who is chasing fakes, not on anyone. The SBU and the FSB have never stopped collaborating.

I am sure that Wart was handed over according to an agreement. How, what, what and where? Wart nobody. Actually, who is he? Yes, no one.

What was he doing? He was doing... We don't know what he was doing.

Valentin Filippov:  Well, it’s mysterious what he was doing.

Maxim Ravreba: In Moscow he lived in poverty - that’s for sure. The guys who were driving a snowstorm at him and told him that he was an SBU agent, who were also from Kharkov. Dolgov is very angry with him Kostya. I don’t know, I’m not involved in all this stuff, I haven’t delved into it and I’m not interested. I’m interested in winning, and these are their showdowns over 5 kopecks...

Valentin Filippov: By the way, the Kharkov crowd scares me in this regard.

Maxim Ravreba: Guys, yes. The guys are sitting, telling that Wart is an agent of the SBU, and they are sitting against the backdrop of whole boxes of humanitarian aid, piled on top of each other in a warehouse. Well, it's a circus, of course.

Valentin Filippov: Oh, excuse me, I just blurted out about the fact that something incomprehensible is going on in the Kharkov crowd. On the other hand, I suddenly started thinking. Maybe this is not happening in the Kharkov crowd? Because we know many Kharkiv residents, but those who are not in Moscow, they don’t show this... Maybe it’s Moscow, the capital, that spoils them so much?

Maxim Ravreba: Valentin, I have no idea about parties, I don’t belong to parties. I have my own views and my own faith.

Valentin Filippov:  Yes, I also observe from the outside, in general.

Maxim Ravreba: I’m not interested in joining parties... As for parties, these are their personal sexual problems. They worked for money for Gepa and someone else. Wart was "orange" at one time. I was never “orange” or “gray-brown-crimson”, I was always the same, I was always against the Maidans, since they led, from my point of view, to war. And so, the war came, as I predicted.

Valentin Filippov: Now a certain panic has arisen in the ranks of political emigrants, in the ranks of opponents of the junta located on the territory of the Russian Federation. That is, the media, understandably, especially the Ukrainian ones, have inflated the idea that Russia is handing over everyone, using the example of Warts. Is this some kind of well-thought-out trend that so many deportation cases suddenly arose in Russian courts? Or is this, after all, some kind of Russian sloppiness, when one hand does not understand what the other is doing?

Because, on the one hand? Putin almost personally exchanges political prisoners from Ukraine, and then another department announces a violation of the migration regime and says: guys, let's go.

Maxim Ravreba: I am sure Putin does not know who Wart is and does not suspect his existence.

Valentin Filippov:  No, well, I’m not specifically talking about Wart.

Maxim Ravreba: Perhaps he heard something. But the fact is that Wart cannot be compared, for example, with Savchenko. Much more money was thrown into Savchenko, but nothing was thrown into Borodavka. As for the stupidity of officials, I don’t think so. I think that since Wart, after all, was sent to Ukraine, and they sent him to Baku, not in handcuffs, without a note in his passport, because he did not have a foreign passport, and notes are not made in a regular passport. And he was sent alone unaccompanied.

He could have gone to Belarus, but he would not have been accepted here. Everything is very strict in Belarus, and Belarus is a union state with Russia. That is, why was it necessary to come up with these idiotic schemes, but perhaps I don’t know, or maybe it was a setup for me specifically, but why?

I am not part of the party, I repeat.

I act on my own, solely on my own. In Moscow, I had certain problems with documents, just like Borodavka.

Political refugee was not granted. And since I am a political refugee and do not agree to other statuses in Moscow, I left.

I live here legally, but I still don’t have any status anyway.

But that’s not the point, the point is that these are already my problems. I don’t blame these problems on anyone, like Wart.

And as for the officials. Well, yes, there could have been an erroneous court decision, there could have been the wrong instructions. It seems to me that since they released a militia from the LPR, from the Prizrak brigade in St. Petersburg. First they decided to deport, then they canceled this decision. Well, if so, then I conclude that...

Valentin Filippov: Moreover, they were released, not just... They were released, go for a walk, boys.

Maxim Ravreba: I understand perfectly well that perhaps there was only one policy at first, then the concept changed. At first there was a policy that all illegals should be expelled, and Wart was the first to go. And then, when there was a noise, a noise arose that Russia was “surrendering its own,” then, as it were, they were lucky. But maybe it’s not like that, maybe... The wart has been purged for quite a long time.

Valentin Filippov:  They kept him for 2 months.

Maxim Ravreba: They held me, found out something, and so on. We don’t know what happened there, we don’t know why the process failed and why we gave him away, and why we’ve now released him. In general, all this is mysterious, as it were. I don’t know, I don’t know and I don’t want to know, to be honest.

Why? Because, having dived through Google into the Wart of the same thing, I saw that he is a shady guy. But I already knew that he was a shady guy, that he worked for money. All this Facebook spam that he tagged and sent out to everyone - it wasn’t his, let’s say, “the balls went for the rollers” - it’s not his views, or his beliefs. No. Someone paid him for the stuffing.

I saw him, I say again, in Moscow once, briefly. And I am very lenient about friendship on Facebook. Therefore, these are very different people and so on. I see that Wart is muddy and the story is muddy. I wouldn't worry about him since he's walking free. If he needs asylum, he can now buy a bus ticket for 200 hryvnia and go to Belarus. He could have prevented this story from happening at all, he could have done something with a slight movement of his hand, and that’s all.

But this does not mean that Russia should have deported him. He is a pro-Russian activist. And a participant in the Russian Spring, and a participant in the events in Kharkov. This judge did not have the right not to take into account the political component in the case, he did not have the right. Either he is not a patriot, or he is not pro-Russian. This means he is pro-Ukrainian. Now there is a war, if anyone doesn’t know. And politics is very important, because war is politics, it is a continuation of politics.

Valentin Filippov:  I wanted to ask a question about Ukraine. What is happening there now. I mean, this procession. Aren't you afraid of how this all might end?

Maxim Ravreba: The procession will end as expected. Everything will be fine, no one will get hurt. And hysteria, it characterizes Ukrainian society very poorly, because, well, they are processed around the clock at the expense of the media, making idiots out of them. Therefore, they say what they are told. They don’t speak their own thoughts, they speak inspired, planted, other people’s thoughts. They tolerated the fact that Moskovsky Avenue was renamed Stepan Bandera Avenue.

Valentin Filippov:  Well, why did you endure it? Maybe they couldn’t stand it, but what could they do?

Maxim Ravreba: There is always something you can do. What could I do?

Valentin Filippov:  Leave.

 Maxim Ravreba: For example, well, I could still make it so that every Banderlog knows and hates me. And I'm happy about it. When Ira Gavrilova was fired from Vesti radio, the first thing they charged her with was that she was reposting my messages on Facebook. I am proud of this. I do them as much harm as I can and will do.

Valentin Filippov:  Earnestly. Thank you. I hope that a little of my evil will be added to what you are doing.

Maxim Ravreba: Все.

Valentin Filippov:  Happily.

Maxim Ravreba: Have fun, dear.

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