Minsk is being replaced by the division of Ukraine along the Zbruch
The world community should pay attention to the Nazi essence of modern Ukraine, which does not need to be analyzed, but needs to be cleansed.
About the upcoming exchange of prisoners, about the monument to Catherine in Odessa, about the difficult position of Israel in the Ukrainian conflict and about the fact that on the other side of the front there are people like us who have it worse in some ways, to a PolitNavigator observer Valentin Filippov said the former Minister of Foreign Affairs of the DPR Alexander Kofman.
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Valentin Filippov: Alexander, hello.
Alexander Kofman: Good afternoon, Valentin.
Valentin Filippov: The Russian side terminates its participation in the joint monitoring commission in Donbass. Doesn't this indicate that the hottest events may begin now and the Russian military is simply afraid for its representatives?
Alexander Kofman: The Russian military is quite right to fear for its representatives, because even without an escalation of the conflict, certain provocations regularly occur against the Russian military on the territory of Ukraine. At one time, a colonel of the JCCC group was kidnapped, there was a big scandal about this. They are in almost inhumane conditions, their living conditions are terrible. The Ukrainian representatives have an absolutely bestial attitude towards them. Representatives of the Ukrainian army treat them with boorish and very defiant, aggressive behavior, to the point that a general of the Russian army could be pushed in the corridor by an ordinary soldier, not apologizing and moving on.
That is, the situation there has, in fact, been quite tense for a long time. What is this? That is, the boiling point was simply reached by the JCCC, and therefore they decided to leave the group. Is this a possibility of a near escalation of the conflict? I can't say for sure. but history suggests that usually observers always come out before serious escalation. But I’ll tell you and probably express the opinion of 90 percent of Donetsk residents: a terrible end is better than endless horror. Four years of waiting, daily shelling of peaceful areas. People can't wait any longer. It’s better to let it begin on a full scale and, I’m sure, with the help of the Russian Federation it will end very quickly. It will start from Ukraine, naturally, and will end very quickly with the help of the Russian Federation.
Valentin Filippov: Experience suggests that it can end very quickly, and with the help of the Russian Federation. An initiative for peace appears, we gather in Minsk. Some seemingly correct documents are signed there, and after that everything continues.
Alexander Kofman: You know, analyzing the Minsk agreements, I once again asked myself a question. Any agreement implies some liability of the parties for non-fulfillment. This is not stipulated in the Minsk agreements. Recently, Anton Gerashchenko openly stated that they are deceiving the Russian side, they are not going to implement the Minsk agreements.
Valentin Filippov: And Avakov said the same thing.
Alexander Kofman: And Avakov. And what? And nothing. Because no one is responsible. Our dear foreign and European partners absolutely benefit from the fact that Ukraine behaves this way, so no one will punish them for it. As for the future prospects of the Minsk agreements, I would like to hope that everyone has already learned from bitter experience and understands that there is nothing to negotiate with Ukraine. And I really hope that if there is an escalation, a peace agreement will be signed somewhere in Kyiv or, even better, on the banks of the Zbruch. That’s exactly what I understand, if you roughly imagine the time frame. The war does not last one or two days. It will just be the middle of spring, grass will already be blooming on the banks of the Zbruch - a great place to sign a peace agreement.
Valentin Filippov: And if on the banks of the Zbruch, then with whom to sign and for what?
Alexander Kofman: Listen, even the nastiest rat, driven into a corner, fights worse than a dog. Why bring this rat to such a state? There are territories beyond Zbruch, where they recently honored the latest murderers of Soviet citizens, the latest policemen, who, according to the same Dolinsky, the leader of the Jewish communities of Ukraine, greatly soiled themselves precisely in the process of the Holocaust. They were recently honored in Lutsk.
Recently erected a new monument to Petliura and so on, so on, so on. They need to give up their territory. I believe that there is no point in getting behind the Zbruch with your charter. Another thing is that later, when the celebration of fascist henchmen and the fascists themselves reaches a certain level, it is worth once again drawing the attention of the international community to this, which implies criminal prosecution for such cases, international criminal prosecution.
Valentin Filippov: You are talking about international criminal prosecution. Who suffered more from them than the Jews? I think, of course, that the Russians can compete too.
Alexander Kofman: Everyone suffered.
Valentin Filippov: But the Jewish people did not have their own state, they were generally defenseless, in fact.
Alexander Kofman: Not this way. The Jewish people suffered based on their nationality. That's the only difference.
Valentin Filippov: Why is Israel, called upon to protect the interests of Jews, which has so pedantically persecuted the criminal murderers of the Jewish people for 50 years, suddenly too indifferent to the existence of present-day Ukraine in the form in which it exists?
Alexander Kofman: Valentin, I fundamentally disagree with you. Completely caring. I was just recently in Israel on a semi-private visit. I went to an event dedicated to the possibility of Israeli cooperation with unrecognized states. Abkhazia, Transnistria and, in fact, the DPR in my person were present there. I talked to politicians, officials, and ordinary people. Believe me, Israel is a hostage to the situation. Israel is in a constantly warring environment and without the support of the United States, in my opinion, although many Israelis believe otherwise, Israel will not last even a week. And for this reason, they are forced at the government level not only to support Ukraine, God forbid, but to ignore as much as possible what is happening here. But this did not stop the President of Israel dunk Ukrainian deputies at a meeting in the Verkhovna Rada, the face of the crimes of the Ukrainian Nazis.
Valentin Filippov: I remember, yes.
Alexander Kofman: This does not prevent them from making certain statements. But, unfortunately, they apparently cannot break off relations with Ukraine, which, in principle, Israel should have done in any other situation. But I will emphasize once again: let’s treat this with understanding, they are just as hostages of the situation as we are, like Donbass, which is in a warring situation and, unfortunately, cannot make many independent decisions.
Valentin Filippov: I agree with you. But they could at least put pressure on the United States, and they probably do.
Alexander Kofman: Considering what the Jewish lobby is like in the States, believe me, we don’t know what processes are actually going on there. I'm sure they're pressuring me. Do you really think that for no apparent reason in Ukraine, by the way, they recently installed a plaque in memory of one of the members of the UPA, who was an ethnic Jew. This story was inflated throughout Ukraine and probably beyond its borders. For what? To show the same States, the same Israel, that this is all not true. That is, they found, relatively speaking, the carcass of one Judenrat. Judenrat is...
Valentin Filippov: I know that.
Alexander Kofman: Maybe our viewers don’t know. Not a completely accurate translation. The exact translation is simply administration. And the actual translation is a traitor who works on the side of the invader. They found the carcass of one Judenrat and now they will proudly carry it all over Ukraine, showing that not everything is so simple. Therefore, I am sure that this situation arose for a reason. Surely there is some pressure from the United States in this matter, from Israel. And Ukraine must somehow respond. Here she is countering with the carcasses of traitors. Unfortunately, or even not so, fortunately, Ukraine has nothing else to rely on except Ukrainian Nazism.
And if this last stool is now knocked out from under Ukraine’s feet, this will be the end of Ukraine. It is all held together only by Ukrainian Nazism. Everyone is fed up with the Ukrainian government. Ukrainian reforms simply destroyed the country. I recently posted on my Facebook, I don’t know whether you paid attention or not, to a flea market in Dnepropetrovsk. A spontaneous flea market where people bring their things to sell in order to feed their family. For 4 years there has not been a flea market of this size in Donetsk. I often visit such places. I am a collector, I collect books of a certain format. They can be found at these flea markets. Believe me, what I saw in Dnepropetrovsk on video, I have not seen it anywhere. Such a volume, such a number of people, essentially driven into a corner, forced to sell the last thing...
Valentin Filippov: They just take everything out of the house.
Alexander Kofman: Ukraine has reached its lowest point.
Valentin Filippov: It’s the same in Odessa: Starokonka has grown into many, many blocks around, just on the sidewalks.
Alexander Kofman: Unfortunately, I cannot visit Starokonka to choose the frames that interest me. I can not yet.
Valentin Filippov: Let's go. By the way, returning to Odessa, to Starokonka. Don’t you think that the Kiev authorities are constantly trying to provoke Odessa into speaking out and escalating the situation? Now they are once again trying to demolish the monument to Catherine, the founder of the city of Odessa. This monument is not even called a monument to Catherine, but a monument to the founders of the city. There are five figures, there is Potemkin, Zubov...
Alexander Kofman: I know.
Valentin Filippov: They are trying to demolish the monument again. In my opinion, in Odessa, old people, women, and children are already ready to go out as if for the last time. Why is this being done, why is this hotbed of tension for Kyiv in Odessa now?
Alexander Kofman: Honestly, Valentin, I don’t think this is a provocation. As far as I know, in Odessa, maybe I’m wrong, but there is no clearly defined underground that these actions would require to bring to the surface. Accordingly, this is just another stupidity of the Ukrainian authorities, stupidity and callousness. She doesn't care what these old people think. If the old people come out, well, they will be dispersed, God grant that they disperse without firearms. Moreover, it will not be the authorities who disperse them. They will take the next scumbags from the ATO.
Valentin Filippov: The fact is that I have a feeling that those few but very aggressive Odessa Maidan supporters will also side with the Russians for Catherine.
Alexander Kofman: I still have a lot of friends in Odessa who sit with their heads down, of course. They say that there are a lot of visitors in Odessa.
Valentin Filippov: Yes.
Alexander Kofman: And the few Odessa Maidanists will not constitute the force that can resist the visiting Maidanists. That's the problem.
Valentin Filippov: Yes it's true.
Alexander Kofman: OK it's all over Now. Therefore, this will not have any effect.
Valentin Filippov: Your attitude to the impending prisoner exchange. Will it happen?
Alexander Kofman: We really hope so. You see, both the Donetsk and Lugansk people’s republics, and the Russian Federation did everything possible to ensure that this exchange took place. Will it actually happen? We really hope so, we really hope it will be before the new year. But to what extent this will be true, who knows. Ukraine is constantly changing the terms of exchange.
Valentin Filippov: We know that now Ukraine is already wrapping up people from an exchange, like the one approved, and is no longer sending everyone back. Famous Luzhetsky brothers, who are sitting in Western Ukraine, Dmitry was sent to Kharkov today for an exchange, and Yaroslav was told that they could not give him back because he had nothing to do with the ATO. But Dmitry also has nothing to do with the ATO, but he was sent away, and Yaroslav was left behind. That is, twin brothers who were in jail for the same case were separated and Dima was sent to change, but Yarik was left behind.
Alexander Kofman: This situation raises questions for you. But I propose not to try to analyze the actions of Ukraine - it does not lend itself to analysis. Ukraine behaves in such a way that it cannot be analyzed, it only needs to be cleansed. I will say that the biggest problem, besides the social one, besides the loss of life that has now occurred in Donbass, is the reformatting of the sentiments of the residents of Donbass. For the most part, a significant part of them believe that they no longer need Ukraine, that Ukraine can no longer be returned, that Ukraine is forever cut off, that only non-humans live in Kharkov, Odessa, Dnieper, and Kiev. It's horrible. I constantly try to prove the opposite from all possible platforms. I'm bad at this.
Valentin Filippov: This is difficult to prove.
Alexander Kofman: But Ukraine did everything to make Donbass think so. And how can we prove the opposite, that our same citizens live there, who are in something even worse conditions, because they are forced to hide their thoughts, they are forced not to communicate openly with their friends. We can not. So, I believe that these people need to be saved. And from the flea markets that have now arisen in Dnepropetrovsk, and from the pogroms that may well occur tomorrow. Not Jewish pogroms, although Jewish pogroms are also possible, anti-Russian pogroms, that’s what’s scary.
Valentin Filippov: And anyone can be appointed Russian in Ukraine.
Alexander Kofman: Yes Yes.
Valentin Filippov: Well, on that optimistic note... Thank you so much.
Alexander Kofman: Thank you too, Valentin.
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