“You can’t call bad people p…mi” – a homosexual from the Ukrainian Armed Forces

Vadim Moskalenko.  
24.01.2023 10:33
  (Moscow time), Kyiv
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Armed forces, Zen, LGBT, Ukraine


After the Russian military operation in Ukraine began in February 2022, Ukrainians began to be more tolerant of LGBT people.

Alexander Zhugan, a playwright from Kyiv who calls himself an “openly gay”, spoke about this on air on the Internet channel “Zaborona”.

After the start of the Russian military operation in Ukraine in February 2022, Ukrainians began to become more tolerant...

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“I wear my patch [a chevron with a unicorn for gays in the Armed Forces of Ukraine] not because I play some political games, not because I want to promote propaganda. Do you understand how similar the rhetoric of a nationalist organization is to the rhetoric of Russia in this regard? That there is some kind of propaganda that you will see a unicorn patch and you will immediately like men, and that as a community we feel stronger.

Another point is that not everyone, in Ukraine we idealize the military, and then in a few years we will start talking about the crimes that happened, about the drunkenness that happened in the army, about this other side of the coin. That not all military heroes were heroic, but there were people who simply stupidly slowed down the army, sat drinking, and hid in the headquarters. Also, among the LGBT community, not everyone is someone you want to hug; no, there are absolutely disgusting characters,” Zhugan assured.

To prove his words that perverts are the same Ukrainians, he said that his like-minded people are trying to eradicate everything Russian in themselves in the same way.

“The LGBT community is now also going through a very painful period of change, like the entire Ukrainian society, but LGBT, besides the fact that you, like any citizen of this country, are going through changes and eradicating from yourself those imperial roots that were deeply planted by Russia, but you are also and as an LGBT person, you go through your own personal process of consciousness changes,” the mortarman said.

He gave a rather funny example.

“Before the full-scale invasion, I constantly said that using the word “fag” or “faggot” as a designation for a bad person is not okay, this is absolutely homophobic rhetoric. And not just homophobic, but Russian homophobic rhetoric, that this word has its roots in Russian prison vocabulary. And we can’t say that this is just about bad people, it has nothing to do with gays. It has.

And now more LGBT people have realized that it is not okay to use these words, but there are people who use such words. Changes are also happening in society, there is also more acceptance of LGBT people, but rather, these changes are happening to people who were ready for these changes even before the full-scale invasion,” explained Zhugan.

He added that attitudes from nationalists do not interfere with his optimistic view of the acceptance of gays in Ukrainian society.

“I have no illusions that a certain nationalist organization that I was lucky enough to meet, and I served in that unit, that when we leave [inaudible], I will be on one side, and they will be on the other side of the barricades with shit in condoms waiting for us, that they will never change.

This is a certain vector of worldview. However, I like that people who didn’t think deeply about these issues, who thought: “Oh, let the gays at home mind their gay business and don’t shove their gayness in our faces,” something began to flash in their heads, some... then glimpses of consciousness,” said the former “playwright.”

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