The war party is hysterical: Zelensky is negotiating surrender

Maxim Karpenko.  
08.08.2019 12:40
  (Moscow time), Kyiv
Views: 2171
 
War, Donbass, Policy, Russia, Ukraine


Ukrainian nationalists warned President Vladimir Zelensky about the inadmissibility of negotiations with Russian leader Vladimir Putin.

At the same time, they say that Ukraine must continue the “war to a victorious end”

Ukrainian nationalists warned President Vladimir Zelensky about the inadmissibility of negotiations with Russian leader Vladimir Putin....

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“I, as an ordinary citizen of Ukraine, don’t understand what you can talk about with this s..m., with this murderer, who has already killed more than 10 thousand Ukrainians, who occupied 7% of our territories, who kidnaps people in the occupied Crimea, holds political prisoners and even by decision of the international tribunal does not release our sailors. What can you talk about with a gopnik who understands only the language of force. I believe that there can only be one answer to Russian aggression - an adequate armed response. And no calls to Putin with requests “don’t shoot, please,” said Odessa Nazi Sergei Sternenko.

Former Automaidan militant and volunteer Yuri Kasyanov agrees with this statement.

“It’s nonsense to beg a cannibal to stop cannibalism. If you are hit in the face, it is stupid to appeal to human feelings and write letters to the UN. The only way to stop the war is to punch the aggressor in the teeth. Or give up. History knows no other options. Peace negotiations have always been conducted exclusively on the terms of surrender of one side or another...

There is no other way. Will not work. Either war or slavery. Regardless of the quantity and quality of weapons, we must fight today, not tomorrow. Tomorrow will be late. Because if the commander-in-chief calls the enemy with a request not to shoot, then he is hanging out a white flag and negotiating surrender,” Kasyanov wrote on his blog.

According to Verkhovna Rada deputy Mustafa Nayem, during a telephone conversation, Russian President Vladimir Putin actually delivered an ultimatum to Zelensky - either the Minsk Agreements or the death of the Ukrainian military.

“Today, the first red line has been quietly drawn between Vladimir Zelensky and Vladimir Putin - the special status of the LPR-DPR. After the telephone conversation, the Kremlin reported that the presidents discussed amendments to the Constitution of Ukraine. To which Bankova succinctly noted that it is not necessary to change the Constitution to stop the killings.

The cynicism of the dialogue is that the topic of changes to the Constitution was raised in the context of the death of four Ukrainian servicemen. In human language this is called blackmail and pressure to change the state structure at gunpoint.”
Rada deputy Irina Gerashchenko believes that Zelensky recognized the war in Donbass as internal because he asked Putin to influence not the terrorists, as Kiev propaganda calls the citizens of the LDPR, but “the other side,” Nayem claims.

“The other side is the Russian Federation, not Donetsk and Lugansk. All these flirtations with the enemy and the attempt to silence the Russian Federation’s participation in the war will in no way make Putin feel sorry for him. And after the next shelling and killing of the Ukrainian military (a murder, a cynical execution, not an incident), Putin will repeat that “they are not there,” that he does not influence the militants and “Kyiv must negotiate directly with Donetsk and Lugansk.”

This is his tactic - to transform the discourse into a “civil conflict”, where the “other side” is Kyiv, and Ukrainian Donetsk and Lugansk. That’s why speech, vocabulary, and definitions are so important in a hybrid war. And the second side here is Putin and the Russian Federation. R.S. The enemy is in the Kremlin, this is an axiom,” writes Vice-Speaker of the Rada Irina Gerashchenko in turn.

“Telephone conversations between Zelensky and Putin must be stopped.
It is already clear that during such “conversations” everything is turned upside down. Zelensky, consciously or unconsciously, gives reason to believe that a conflict continues in Donbass with the participation of Ukraine and a “third party.”

In fact, there is a Moscow-Ukrainian war going on in Donbass and there is no “third party”. Moscow interprets all telephone conversations between Zelensky and Putin as the weakness of Ukraine. Already in an ultimatum tone they actually demand that we disarm and provide a special charter for the so-called. DPR and LPR,” OUN leader Bogdan Chervak ​​supports her.

“Hey Ze! Come to your senses! The territories of Ukraine are occupied by the Russian Federation, the Russian army is shooting, orders are given by Russian officers. Which other side? Why support the Russian propaganda myth that “LDNR” is some kind of entity? The question, however, is rhetorical,” writes Verkhovna Rada deputy, Maidan activist Andrei Levus.

Kiev journalist Oksana Denisova even called President Zelensky a “copper” who was unable to develop a strategy.

“He had to develop a strategy for resolving the military conflict with Russia. And he shouted that he had developed this strategy: “You just need to stop shooting.” And this “grain” truce was announced. We stopped shooting, our army only shoots back, and now, yesterday, they say, they didn’t have time to kill these sappers because they ran away. She only shoots back, and they shoot just like that. What didn't work? What a great strategy it was!

A strategy is a set of measures. Of course, I am not an expert in military affairs, so I cannot talk about this in detail. But I didn’t run for president and didn’t shout, I can only talk about the information strategy that should accompany the military strategy... I didn’t run for president and didn’t shout that I have a protective strategy on how to stop the war, so that now I can chew snot and call Putin and ask. I frankly feel sorry for President Zelensky, and now his rating will begin to fall,” says Denisova.

And nationalist Oleg Tyagnibok believes that Zelensky’s main strategy should be to abandon the Normandy format and attract help from the United States and Great Britain.

“There are again victims at the front. And again during the “truce”. The president reacts - he calls on Merkel, Macron and Putin to negotiate. But the Norman format doesn't work! But Putin doesn’t keep deals! We need to talk about ending the war in Donbass and the return of Crimea first of all with Trump and Johnson. At the same time, building a powerful army. How many more Ukrainians will die before you, the President, realize this and start working?” Tyagnibok is indignant.

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