Tymoshenko's ally began to shout at Nemtsov, who proposed that Ukraine turn into a confederation

25.04.2014 10:43
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Kyiv, April 25 (Navigator, Mikhail Ryabov) - Representative of the ruling “Batkivshchyna”, deputy Sergei Sobolev, interrupted on television the speech of Russian oppositionist Boris Nemtsov, who allowed Ukraine to turn into a confederation.

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Kyiv, April 25 (Navigator, Mikhail Ryabov) - Representative of the ruling “Batkivshchyna” deputy Sergei Sobolev interrupted...

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“You need to solve the problem of how to preserve the state. Don't be offended, you don't have an army. She is not physically there. In Russia there are also big problems with the army - corruption, Serdyukov, stolen billions. But, nevertheless, compared to the Ukrainian one, it exists. There are special forces, elite units.

Sorry to teach you. But if you want to preserve the state, you must solve two questions: how should Ukraine be structured so that it can preserve itself? I have a feeling that you took the model of a unitary state that Putin created. Putin is a supporter of a unitary state who destroyed federalism!

Ukrainian people are more free, free, there was the Zaporozhye Sich, Nestor Makhno. Maybe you should really get back to this?

If you cannot save Ukraine, then you need to decide within what borders you can save it?

I don’t think there should be taboo topics. I don’t think that if Russian is the second state language, but if at the same time the country remains, that this topic is forbidden,” Nemtsov reasoned.

However, the guest’s speech was interrupted by Deputy Sobolev from Yulia Tymoshenko’s party.

“Perhaps the topic is not taboo for you. I look back to 1991, when we were offered to do the same with Crimea - people like you came and said: give Crimea autonomy, Crimea will calm down. I remember this. They gave Crimea autonomy, we’ve already been through this!” – the Tymoshenkovite began to be indignant.

“Sergey, I have a request for you - know how to listen, even to what is very unpleasant for you. You are not Zhirinovsky. Moreover, you are in power, and I am generally the opposition.

I believe that the key task is to preserve the state, and there should be no prohibited topics. If Ukraine needs a Swiss-type confederation with autonomy not for regions, but for cities, which corresponds to the Ukrainian freedom, we need to discuss this system,” Nemtsov insisted.

“Today you are offering the same thing for Donbass that you offered in Crimea in 1991,” Sobolev again protested.

“You don’t have to do anything,” Nemtsov smiled in response.

“Today the circumstances are completely different. Are you saying we don't have an army? Sorry, we have a new army created on the ruins of the old one. In two months I was able to launch a real anti-terrorist operation! Our self-defense people in every region are detaining saboteurs. The population has woken up,” Sobolev boasted.

“I listened to you. Are you OK. You have solved all the problems, the anti-terrorist operation is underway. You can act as you please. I just want to say that Ukraine is in danger of losing its state. The threat of getting into a crisis from which you cannot get out alive. You don't have to do anything. These are your problems,” Nemtsov disagreed.

“You are simply behind the times in Ukraine,” snapped Tymoshenko’s ally.

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