Tatyana Montyan: “They told the Europeans - you bastards will break our country. Now they are throwing up their hands"
Kyiv, November 28 (PolitNavigator, Vladimir Mikhailov) – Euromaidan turned out to be a fatal mistake. Ukrainians could save the country, avoiding casualties, by simply waiting for the presidential elections, which Viktor Yanukovych had every chance of losing. About this in an interview "PolitNavigator" said a famous Kyiv lawyer Tatiana Montyan.
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"PolitNavigator": Euromaidan - what was it like for you?
Tatyana Montyan: I was against Euromaidan from the first day - this is common knowledge. From the first day she said that neither Europe nor America needed us, and all they wanted was to break our country apart. Neither Europe nor America have pursued or are pursuing any other goals. Euromaidan is an oligarchic revolt of our idiotic oligarchs, who, instead of hiring a killer for Yanukovych and his team, for some reason ruined the whole country. As a result, we lost Crimea, practically lost the East, collapsed the economy and completely destroyed all state institutions. And they brought to power even greater scum than the one they overthrew. That's the whole “revolution”.
"PolitNavigator": How much responsibility for what happened lies with Yanukovych?
Tatyana Montyan: Yanukovych is the same as the country. This is not Yanukovych, this is the people. As for Yanukovych himself, he fell into suspended animation a very long time ago, in 2011, and outsourced the country to his son and Pshonka’s son, and he and Portnov finally brought the country to the brink. Because they are greedy, stupid scum.
But Yanukovych screwed up everything, and when both Portnov and Lyovochkin betrayed him at the same time, his fate was sealed.
"PolitNavigator": That is. Do you think that everything was already decided in December?
Tatyana Montyan: Yes, the only question was how far Europe would want to go. It was clear that America didn't care. They are overseas; they don’t care about us or Russia at all. But I was amazed at how stupid the position of Europe was, which will now have to host all this rabble of thieves and beggars. Look for jobs, benefits, etc. for them. Because soon it will be impossible to live in our country, it will be a mixture of Somalia and Upper Volta with nuclear power plants. And this territory is very dangerous for Europe. Therefore, I still don’t understand why Europe got involved in this mess.
"PolitNavigator": Do you think that Europeans did not understand the consequences of what was happening then?
Tatyana Montyan: Did not understand. I talked to many Europeans, they now throw up their hands and say - how can this be? But then our sane people rubbed their noses in them, saying that you bastards would break our country, finish off all our state institutions, which were already dying. You will finish it off, but there is nothing new to create from, and you, self-righteous scoundrels, will not help us. And so it happened.
I've said this a million times. It’s just that no one listened to it, everyone was euphoric.
"PolitNavigator": Do you think that Europe should bear responsibility for what is happening here?
Tatyana Montyan: What will she do now? They brought to power completely rabid rabble, cannibals and marauders who knew nothing but stealing. No one else came to power. Parliament is a complete rabble of morons and thieves. What should we do now – hold new elections? The same ones will be chosen.
PolitNavigator: What is Europe's attitude to Ukraine now?
Tatyana Montyan: Like a homeless person from a heating main. Who, damn it, would have disappeared somewhere, the goat, or would have been better off dead. They understand that they cannot avoid the consequences of a humanitarian catastrophe, which is already beginning in our east and is gradually moving to the west. And winter hasn’t really started yet. Europe will not be able to avoid the fact that crowds of our people will rush there. It’s not for them to break into America. Nobody will let them into America.
"PolitNavigator": But official European rhetoric is somewhat different...
Tatyana Montyan: No, they all said in plain text: “Are you guys fighting? Enough of the crazy rides, where are you rednecks going to Europe?!” Steinmeier said, Schefner said - fuck you, Ukrainians, not NATO and the European Union.
"PolitNavigator": Nevertheless, many Ukrainians are confident that Europe is waiting for us with open arms...
Tatyana Montyan: Fortunately, not many, but only stubborn Maidanists who still have not understood what happened, and how they were used and forced for Nuland cookies to destroy their own country for the sake of other people’s geopolitical interests.
"PolitNavigator": The position of the Western media is now mainly pro-Ukrainian, for the Kiev government...
Tatyana Montyan: What is written in newspapers and what happens in real life are, as they say, two big differences. Sorry, and now it’s not too late to grab all our oligarchic scum by the financial balls and say - guys, either reforms, or you’re screwed! Does anyone do this? No. Everyone is happy with everything. They are limited to “deep turbulence” due to the fact that reforms do not occur. Ah ah ah! They don't happen.
From whom did you want to get these reforms? From Chocolate Petit? From Rabbit Canopy? I’m just wondering who they were counting on in terms of reforms? Is it really Poroshenko or Yatsenyuk? Or maybe someone else? Maybe on Martynenko and Zhvania, on Lyovochkin, on Firtash or on Kolomoisky? Or even Vitali Klitschko?! On whom specifically did they count on reforms?
“PolitNavigator”: In your opinion, Europe is not putting enough pressure on the Kiev government in terms of carrying out reforms?
Tatyana Montyan: She doesn't press at all. They have no idea that we need to reform here, just like any other aliens. Because only locals can understand what needs to be reformed here. And the Europeans, like the Americans, spent their entire lives spreading rot on the locals, who really wanted to do something, and instead promoted and maintained all sorts of grant-eating trash. They have never supported a single normal initiative. And they never gave money to any normal people. Only to all Leshchenkos with Nayems and their other brothers in mind.
They, of course, will continue to “throw away money” over little things, so that we don’t die here, and so that we don’t be left alone with White Papuasia with these same nuclear power plants. They're not going anywhere. But who will carry out these very reforms? Probably Mustafa Nayem and Ganya Gopko.
Before destroying this country, these “civilized” people should have asked what in return? If you cut the Gordian knot, you have to wonder if you have another rope? Or will you have to tie up the cut one and struggle with the knots? After all, from the wreckage of a barn you can only build another barn, only smaller and worse.
"PolitNavigator": What could happen in the near future? Winter has come, but we still don’t buy gas from Russia, we’re waiting for something...
Tatyana Montyan: I think that the collapse of the infrastructure awaits us, unless some miracle happens, and with our last legs we will somehow get through this winter without too many casualties. But, to be honest, I don’t really believe in it.
"PolitNavigator": Is a new Maidan possible?
Tatyana Montyan: If by Maidan you mean another party paid for by one of the oligarchs, then the third Maidan is unprofitable, and therefore, I think, it will not happen. But hungry and cold riots of a desperate people are quite possible, and if riots start, then everything is unpredictable.
"PolitNavigator": How might the situation develop in the East?
Tatyana Montyan: Similar. The LPR and DPR also do not have the resources to maintain infrastructure and so on. Because there are exactly the same institutionally narrow-minded figures there as we have “on the mainland.” Both the junta and the anti-junta are alike.
"PolitNavigator": You don't believe in their support from Russia?
Tatyana Montyan: What support, Lord! Let Russia deal with its problems. We surrendered to them. There are thieves there just like ours, or even worse. Why do they need us?
Maybe they will help us in little ways, just like the European Union does for us, so that we don’t die of hunger at all. And so that there is no total humanitarian catastrophe, but no more.
“PolitNavigator”: Tell me, why didn’t people understand the consequences of Euromaidan?
Tatyana Montyan: Because people generally have no idea how the state mechanism functions. In the same way, people do not understand how the TV works and why it stopped working. For the average person, a television, a synchrophasotron, or state institutional mechanisms are something incomprehensible. To understand that something is not working, you need to understand how it works. But people don’t understand, and they don’t have to understand. For example, I don’t understand music, and if I look at a music book, I won’t understand anything there. But I have ears, and I hear music.
But at the same time, people can use ready-made institutional mechanisms. Any fool can plug in a TV. But not every fool can make this TV. And what’s more, come up with it, that’s all. Even savages can use democracy if institutional mechanisms have already been created. In this case, democratic procedures can be carried out. But these mechanisms must be created by those who know how, and such people are rare at all times. And believe me, none of those greedy, stupid, bloody creatures who are now in power are one of these people.
"PolitNavigator": That is. No one will truly create democracy here?
Tatyana Montyan: Even if they wanted to, they don't know how. For example, I really want to invent a new computer, but this will be limited to desire, because I have no idea how this is done. I really want to invent some new animal. Some new plant. But due to the fact that I am not a biologist or a geneticist, this will remain my desire. I want to write a symphony, but I don’t know the notes. That's why I won't write.
So they won’t do anything, because this requires knowledge. Which are mined over years and decades. They have no idea at all about the depths, the abysses of their ignorance in terms of institutional construction.
Therefore, we are now in the midst of the last stage of degradation of the institutions of state power. I repeat once again: if you destroy an old barn, but there is no material to build a new building, you will live in the rubble.
“PolitNavigator”: Do we have any prospects, in your opinion?
Tatyana Montyan: There are prospects. Perhaps at least something “moving” in this country will come to the local elections. It may even be possible to create some grassroots institutions. The question is whether we will survive this winter.
"PolitNavigator": We may not survive?
Tatyana Montyan: We may not survive. If in Kyiv the main pipes, and the heating pipelines adjacent to the main ones, burst, and internal communications burst in the cold, then these houses will turn into you know what. There are no alternatives to central heating in Kyiv. What are we going to do, how to warm up? Potbelly stoves? Can you imagine the scale of the disaster if, God forbid, the central heating pipeline breaks? The wear and tear of heating mains in Kyiv now amounts to more than 80% of the resource.
Of course, this problem is not new., but this year it was aggravated by the fact that these morons, saving gas and heat, did not supply hot water to their houses and kept the pipes dry for four months. This caused the pipes to begin to rust. Now it all breaks under pressure, up to 60 breakthroughs happen a day.
And this winter has not really started yet. And what will happen to the country in Epiphany frosts, I’m even afraid to imagine. In many houses there is no pressure, so the batteries are barely warm, but it is much better than if they started to tear. There is nothing to drown. There is no gas. There is no coal. Limits are not enough to survive the winter.
"PolitNavigator": Let's say Euromaidan would not have happened. What would happen in Ukraine now?
Tatyana Montyan: We would now be preparing for elections next year. Perhaps Yanukovych would have lost on them, or maybe he would have won. But even Yanukovych’s win is better than what we have now. Because expelling Yanukovych, while ruining the country, in my opinion, is complete and absolute insanity.
"PolitNavigator": Would Yanukovych continue to try to negotiate an association with Europe?
Tatyana Montyan: “Civilized” Europeans showed themselves to be greedy, cynical scoundrels. They thought that Yanukovych would come and agree to their enslaving conditions, which were completely unfavorable for Ukraine. And he just understood everything at the last moment and refused, that’s all. It was a very unprofitable agreement.
"PolitNavigator": What about another alternative, the Customs Union? Would there be movement in this direction?
Tatyana Montyan: Is it possible not to go anywhere at all? Why do you have to go either to a rapist on the one hand, or to a sadist on the other, but you can’t sit at home? Why couldn’t it be possible to stay with what we had, bargain, and move on with our lives? Why was it necessary to get involved in the Customs Union?
“PolitNavigator”: Do you think that Ukraine could exist on its own without being part of either the EU or the Customs Union?
Tatyana Montyan: Certainly. And slowly develop. Why do you have to get involved in some kind of crap? You have shit with nuts in one hand, and shit with raisins in the other hand - but why choose shit? Maybe we should leave him to hell and go buy some ice cream? Why do you always have to choose from different varieties of shit? I can’t understand that. What are we missing? Why should we climb somewhere, enter somewhere on unfavorable terms for ourselves?
I see that Ukraine has everything to develop calmly and live on its own, without going anywhere under enslaving conditions. This I know for sure.
"PolitNavigator": Now, presumably, this opportunity has already been missed.
Tatyana Montyan: Why? Nothing is ever missed. But with the creatures that are now in power, this is extremely unlikely. Those who are now in power are dependent on external forces precisely because they have no ideas about what to do with the country.
"PolitNavigator": Can people who have such ideas come to power? And How?
Tatyana Montyan: Everything is possible in this life, as long as the resource is not physically destroyed, it is never too late to take the path of the samurai. This may be as a result of the elections. Of course, in the last elections all sorts of rabble got into parliament. Well, wait, then people still hoped for something. If the elections had been held a little later, the results would have been different.
People already hate this government, but why love it, for its impoverishment? In general, what does it rest on then, that is the question. It rests on quasi-legitimacy, on the fact that there is no one to pay for the next Maidan. And life is not yet terrible enough to stir up riots. Therefore, everything is ahead, winter has not yet begun.
"PolitNavigator": Do you think that the number of people dissatisfied with the current government will grow as social problems accumulate?
Tatyana Montyan: Certainly.
"PolitNavigator": And Is there a chance that the next elections will bring more sound forces to power than the current parliament?
Tatyana Montyan: It's possible. In these elections, the healthy forces simply did not have the opportunity to unwind. Because the healthy forces represent precisely those who say that Maidan was an oligarchic coup, and you are all naive passionaries, if not idiots who ruined your own country.
"PolitNavigator": Which political parties do you consider to be healthy forces?
Tatyana Montyan: Only my own, to be honest. Plus many intelligent, professional, disparate people in different projects, whom we hope to bring under our umbrella.
"PolitNavigator": And do you expect that your popularity will grow as things get worse and worse in the country?
Tatyana Montyan: She's already growing. Whether she will have time to grow enough to grab at least a little of the power and administrative resource – we’ll see.
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