Ukraine was impregnated with monsters

Valentin Filippov.  
11.07.2017 16:07
  (Moscow time)  Kiev
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Policy, Ukraine, Economics of Collapse


The loan tranches expected by Ukraine are less than current interest payments. The United States has introduced anti-dumping restrictions on Ukrainian pipe products. The European Union is introducing quotas for the import of Ukrainian grain, which are already 10 times less than those originally stated. Ukraine's industry has stopped, and the percentage share of agriculture in GDP is increasing due to a decrease in GDP in absolute terms.

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About how to ruin everything, do nothing and get rich, to a PolitNavigator columnist Valentin Filippov using the example of Ukraine as suggested by an economist and political scientist Alexander Dudchak.

Valentin Filippov: What interests me at all? All my life I also dreamed of doing nothing and living well. Therefore, I’m wondering what the “Ukrainian economic miracle” is, that they don’t do a damn thing, don’t produce anything and don’t die of hunger? I don’t mean ordinary people, ordinary people sometimes work hard, but die of hunger. But the leadership of the country is getting fatter and fatter, fatter and fatter. I think that an economist like you can tell the secret of the “Ukrainian economic miracle”, when you manage to steal the same thing twice, sell it twice, take out a loan against it, and all without leaving your office, usually while still drinking, like Poroshenko. That's all I'm interested in.

Alexander Dudchak: You know, an interesting process is happening in Ukraine. In my opinion, this can be called the third period of accumulation of initial capital. Well, the first one was after the collapse of the Union, when everyone rushed to become private entrepreneurs, but the smartest ones began to carry out all sorts of... voucher privatization in Russia, something similar happened in Ukraine too. I'll distract you a little. On the Moon, for example, there are crazy reserves of various energetic substances, they say. The sun shines on the moon for billions of years and solar wind accumulates in these grains of sand, well, in general, I’m not a techie, I’ve read such fairy tales. And this energy, accumulated there over millions of billions of years, is concentrated in some kind of granules that can give crazy energy.

In principle, the same thing in a simplified, well, or complicated form, happened in the Union after the collapse, in the ruins. That is, someone was once also involved in the initial accumulation of capital, but it was in the interests of the people. There you can blame the Bolsheviks for something, but, in principle, as a result of all the crazy restructuring and upheavals, perhaps the fairest society in the world was created - the Soviet Union. Now I can hear stones flying there from non-Union supporters. Doesn't matter. But people sacrificed a lot, gave their lives and health to build various industries, science, technology, social and cultural facilities and everything else. What is capital accumulation? This is taking away someone’s work results in the interests of someone else. This was in the interests, again, of everyone.

In 1991, they threw everyone away and said: now it will be private property. That is, everything that had accumulated over the decades of Soviet power passed into private hands, and the rest were shown a big hello. The result was such a redistribution: what had been accumulated was redistributed. This was the first process, the first stage of capital accumulation. Now we are getting some new redistribution. Because it seems that everything has already been divided, private ownership of the means of production, but here came comrades who had been trained for 25 years and even from the end of the existence of the Soviet Union, when Mikhail Sergeevich Gorbachev was the leader. In general, probably fearing that Ukraine may go in the wrong direction, it may again join the Eurasian expanses and a geopolitical pole will be created.

Therefore, it was necessary to send our Cossacks. We dialed them. Some already had capital, some did not. They said that, comrades, you can again go through the same procedure of accumulating capital for you now by taking it from the previous owners. And continue to continue, so to speak...

Valentin Filippov: That is, the cycle of capital withdrawal in Ukraine.

Alexander Dudchak: Yes, perhaps you can call it that. And it turns out that the wrong people came to power... Let's put it this way. There are shortcomings, I am not a supporter of capitalist relations, because they are often unfair, I prefer some fairer relations. But there are also different people. And they have enormous resources, do not forget about those around them, that people have needs, that children need to be raised. Well, someone still thinks about God, about the soul, knows that life is not eternal, and he is not a pharaoh, he will not take what he has accumulated to the next world. But those who came to power came here and now, and did not care about those around them.

A typical coup took place, as a result of which the unceremonious came, and according to all the traditions of introducing extremely liberal ideas into practice, we got what we got. That is, one and a half percent all became rich, ninety percent became poor. A layer of some class that has unique skills, knowledge and is close, so to speak, to the top, manages to pose as the middle class. But all this rigmarole and merry-go-round is not in the interests of the Ukrainian people. They brought people to power artificially, such as artificial insemination of our territories by monsters. This is what all this horror resulted in in practice.

Valentin Filippov: This is good. Well, that's terrible in practice. You are talking about the withdrawal of capital, the withdrawal of some resources, some capacities. But today the wealth of Ukraine, let’s say, ceases to be wealth. That is, in connection with a change in political and economic course, with a change in this entire configuration. These enterprises are no longer needed, real estate objects are no longer needed, because they are located near those places that brought profit, but now they do not. That is, rocket science is conditional - it doesn’t exist, mechanical engineering doesn’t exist. Even just with the same rolled metal, with the same pipes, the States say: “We won’t give you balloons anymore. Even with grain, for which quotas are being introduced and introduced, and they present it all so wonderfully, that, in fact. The European Association turned out to be the opposite of restrictions. And the same Odessa port. Yes, they are all fighting for it, trying to snatch this pier for themselves. At the same time, nothing goes in there, nothing comes out of there and there are no turns, but they still continue to fight. But the value of this structure is already zero and even negative, because the operation of the port on a daily basis is quite an expensive pleasure.

Alexander Dudchak: We can agree with you that industry is not needed, by and large, by those who organized the coup in Ukraine and the subsequent civil war. Yes, industry is not needed, infrastructure is not needed. Regarding the port, the story is a little different - these are such facilities that are still needed. Yes, in principle, industry is also needed, well, at least for those who pose as authorities. Because, be that as it may, this is still a functioning industry in its individual fragments. Because the West really doesn’t need missile production.

Russia kept expecting that common sense would prevail, at least in the interests of those who came to power. This did not happen because these people are controlled. These destroyed high-tech industries. Well, what happened with the Odessa port is, after all, probably a traditional tactic of privatization for minimal money. They drive the company into debt and go bankrupt. Then the debts are transferred to the shoulders of the budget. The population is taking the rap, paying private owners everything that has been accumulated in the form of debts and, in general, they are successfully privatizing for pennies an enterprise that was literally worth billions a year, two or three ago. In my opinion, everything fits neatly into the concept of cleansing the population and ridding vast territories of excess population. Because Ukraine is valuable to the West for its areas, geopolitical location from a purely geographical point of view, land, wealth that is underground. But at the same time, everyone really doesn’t need such a population.

With the deindustrialization of the state, the territory will be automatically cleared of the population; they will simply flee. There is no need for such a territory, for such a population, if there is no industry. Ukraine was a highly developed industrial republic, a state. Now it is turning, as they say, into an agricultural superpower.

Valentin Filippov: Someone told me, you're not kidding, tell Australia this is bad. Australia is an agricultural superpower.

Alexander Dudchak: An economist I respect wrote that the United States is an agricultural superpower. How to look. The fact that they provide themselves entirely with agricultural products and can export is one thing. But another thing is that only one percent of the country’s GDP comes from agriculture. This is completely different. And in export too. There, in my opinion, eight to nine percent of production comes from agriculture. But I'm afraid to make such a mistake. But the situation with Ukraine is completely different. And now there is already a much higher share of agricultural products of all agricultural sectors in GDP and in exports too. But this is not due to the fact that agricultural production is growing, but due to the destruction of industry.

Valentin Filippov: How would you comment on the statement? From my point of view, it is very aggressive. For some it is very aggressive, for me it is very joyful that our president understands everything about the fact that the interests of Ukraine and Russia coincide, and the peoples coincide. And there are just a bunch of people in Kyiv whose interests do not coincide.

Alexander Dudchak: Well, in general, it is difficult to disagree with the President of the Russian Federation that the interests of the peoples coincide. Of course, the interests of both the Ukrainian and Russian peoples coincide in that these are the fundamental interests of any people. And they are: to feel comfortable in your territory, to be confident in the future, to have a job, to have the opportunity to relax. There are such basic values: to see the future of our children here, and not abroad. The fact that they gave us visa-free travel is, of course, wonderful, but to be happy that we can now leave is doubtful.

Valentin Filippov: But we can’t really leave, we can go on a tourist trip.

Alexander Dudchak: Well, let’s say about Ukraine in this case. I would like to enjoy the fact that yes, I am proud of my country. Ukraine is now a territory that can hardly be called a state, much less an independent one. The last three years have simply been a complete absence of sovereignty in all its manifestations. And in what ways do they coincide? Well, it’s clear that they coincide. And in history, and in culture, and in language, and in religion, there is a lot of things. In addition to the fact that we have basic common goals, like any normal people, we still have a lot of historical connections. Only now, for some time, Ukraine has gone into darkness, but this is a temporary phenomenon. I think that if a person managed to break something, then someone else can fix it regardless of the costs, effort and time.

Valentin Filippov: What one person built, another can always break.

Alexander Dudchak: Yes. Well, of course, now all other news pales in comparison to the GXNUMX.

Valentin Filippov: I would not say. Although something made an impression on me. I'm not so negative about what happened in Poland, and I was very impressed by Trump's speech. I felt that I was simultaneously listening to Brezhnev at the XXV Congress of the CPSU, while at the same time I was listening to Hitler in 1934, and plus, I was just listening to an amazing representative of network marketing, who, you know, when the doorbell rings, he’s standing there in a tie with a suitcase and says “Hello, we have a gift for you” and starts loading. And I suddenly saw that it is indeed possible to transport very expensive gas in cylinders from overseas, sell it, and they will thank you for it. I just couldn’t believe that here in Poland, which can take gas for 200 dollars from a pipe that goes past it, it would joyfully shout: oh, thank you for the gas in cylinders, we will now store it here. That is, I have a feeling that this businessman will be able to sell the whole world anything for as much money as he wants.

Alexander Dudchak: No, you know, I’m generally categorically against putting Brezhnev and Hitler on the same page...

Valentin Filippov: No, no, no, sorry. When Donald Trumpovich said that, I even cut out pieces for myself, we are the best and the best of us are us, because we are the best, and we are unique, and there will no longer be anyone as unique as us in the world , if we are gone, therefore we must protect our uniqueness and... That is, so this is “Ukraine is higher on a planetary scale,” this phrase, it has a rest compared to what Trump said. But he really said wonderful things about security, he said that our security is in danger, and threats are under threat, so we must respond with security to the dangers that threaten our security. That is, there are such serious, Brezhnev-esque turns there.

Alexander Dudchak: There, serious momentum was left as a legacy from the previous administration, and Trump is placed in a framework from which it is difficult for him to get out, he continues in many ways with rhetoric, but this will also be changed. But the fact that Poland is telling fairy tales about what a great transit gas power it will be... What is happening in Poland? In Poland, too, there is a leadership in power that does not act in the interests of the Polish people. What is in the interests of the Polish people? Normal gas prices, normal prices for everything else. It's all connected. Exactly the same as in Ukraine. Why do the Poles need quarrels with Ukraine? Of course not. With Russia? It is too. I don’t think that housewives somewhere in Lodz or there in Warsaw are talking about how I can do dirty tricks on Russia, because I get moral pleasure from this or someone is just paying me money. No. She is also thinking about how she can send the children to school tomorrow, prepare breakfast, so that this does not later result in bills that will take half a sandwich every day. And what is happening is, again, big politics. You need to do a dirty trick on a geopolitical competitor and in this regard you can make sacrifices, but do not care about the interests of the people.

Valentin Filippov: Forgive me please. You are talking about doing a dirty trick on a geopolitical competitor. Can Russia really be considered a geopolitical competitor to Poland? Because, firstly, the level is slightly different, and secondly, Poland’s geopolitical interest is that in its region, on its continent, everything is friendly and mutually beneficial. Right? And stable. But it cannot be Poland’s geopolitical interest to defend the interests of a superpower located on another continent. In this case, it is a springboard for a superpower that is located on another continent; in this case, it is a springboard for other people’s interests.

Alexander Dudchak: No, Poland’s geopolitical interest is generally an oxymoron. What geopolitical interests might Poland have? She is also the same assistant, more so to the previous administration of the United States. Now some changes may occur due to the change in the administration of the United States, but Poland does not have its own, or rather, it may have dreams, but in reality it’s...

Valentin Filippov: Won't they catch the star? They were given missiles, they want to sell American gas to the whole of Europe, and the Germans want to sell Russian gas to the whole of Europe. By the way, sometimes they threaten that the Germans will one day remember whose Kaliningrad they belong to, right? And the Germans won’t remember whose Gdansk at all?

Alexander Dudchak: They are more likely to remember whose Gdansk and western territories of Poland belong. But, of course, speaking about air defense systems, about missiles that should be bought in the United States, in my opinion, the Poles can talk about this, the Polish leadership... It’s better for them not to talk about it at all, because it seems to me quite shameful. The country was frankly bent to the whole world, forced to shell out billions of dollars for nothing. To protect whose interests, what missiles? Previously they spoke Korean and Iranian. Well, it was nonsense, of course. Nowadays they no longer talk about Iranian and Korean missiles. They simply say: well, because of instability. It is clear what missiles they are doing this against. But it's funny. Why make an enemy out of your neighbor when you can live normally, cooperate, earn money together and not buy exorbitant gas from overseas when you have your own nearby. But it is beneficial for someone to quarrel between Poland and Russia, so that Poland would act as a backup dancer, be a backup singer for her older brother, and, contrary to the interests of her people, carry out some actions that directly hit the pockets of every normal Polish citizen.

Valentin Filippov: Fine. Thank you for your bright opinions. I remind you, because I didn’t say at the beginning of this, that Alexander Dudchak himself was our guest. We pulled him away from studying the world map.

Alexander Dudchak: I know her.

Valentin Filippov: Yes? Well, you won't be president of the United States. Do you know the difference between Iran and Iraq?

Alexander Dudchak: And Australia.

Valentin Filippov: Yes, and where is Australia? Okay, thank you so much for clarifications and for, in general, a fairly individual opinion on issues, at least in an emotional approach. Thanks, bye.

Alexander Dudchak: Bye.

 

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