Vadim Kolesnichenko: There is no political life in Russia in principle

Valentin Filippov.  
21.06.2020 02:41
  (Moscow time), Sevastopol
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Elections, The Interview, Crimea, Opposition, Policy, Russia, Sevastopol, USA, Ukraine


Former Verkhovna Rada deputy Vadim Kolesnichenko returned to Crimea after Euromaidan, where he unsuccessfully participated in Russian elections several times. Now he appears as an expert on central and local TV channels. Kolesnichenko is extremely skeptical about the current political system in Russia and cites the current gubernatorial campaign in Sevastopol as an example. However, he believes that the situation in the Russian Federation is still better than in Ukraine after Euromaidan.

The politician spoke about this in an interview with PolitNavigator columnist Valentin Filippov.

Former Verkhovna Rada deputy Vadim Kolesnichenko returned to Crimea after Euromaidan, where several times...

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Valentin Filippov: In our improvised studio, the champion of Ukraine in the involuntary struggle for the Russian language, Vadim Kolesnichenko. Vadim, hello.

Vadim Kolesnichenko: Good afternoon.

Valentin Filippov: I remember, are you also the President of the Hockey Federation in Sevastopol or not?

Vadim Kolesnichenko: I was there for 12 years, but last year I resigned because, thanks to the actions of the previous governor, three investors who were supposed to build an ice arena, launch the foreign players that the RFU gave us and, most importantly, we were included in absentia in the continental youth league, it all went to waste. Therefore, I was tired of doing stupid things because they were asking investors for money.

Valentin Filippov: For the fact that a person gives money, they wanted money from him. I understood this scheme of a wonderful man named Ovsyannikov.

Please tell me, now the President of the Federation of Motorcyclists is being nominated for governor of Sevastopol. Don't you know?

Vadim Kolesnichenko: No, I already read it.

Valentin Filippov: Should we wait for the president of the ski federation, parachutists, or someone else? Who else can apply for the post of governor of Sevastopol?

Vadim Kolesnichenko: Valentin, I can say that the whole city can move forward. There is absolutely no problem with this, and for Mr. Razvozhaev, who is the only one chosen by God, put forward by United Russia, there are no problems at all. The fact is that political life in Russia is a farce, when knights on cardboard horses with cardboard swords and cardboard shields depict some semblance of the political struggle of Nanai boys. In fact, it’s not even shameful anymore, it’s some kind of perversion.

What explains this? Well, firstly, the fact that there are no political parties, or political life in general, in Russia in principle. This is an imitation. This is not even masturbation, it is an imitation of masturbation. This is the first.

Second. There is no representative force, no representative power in Russia either. Indeed, it is decorative, it serves the executive branch, and this is bad.

Third. When we talk about elected governors, you know, it’s time for this hypocrisy to stop and end. Because over the past 10 years, the very idea of ​​party struggle, an alternative, has been emasculated. How? Everything is locked down, and the so-called United Russia is present everywhere.

Let's take Sevastopol. Only United Russia is present in all municipalities. Well, there, sporadically, someone appeared. And there is such a thing as a municipal filter. For those who are not involved in elections, and practically the majority of Russians suffer from this, they do not even understand what we are talking about. This is called a concrete wall. For us, getting nominated is not a problem, but in order to register as a candidate for governor, you need to get a signature from twelve municipal deputies in eight municipalities. Can you imagine? The city may even have a million population, well, we already have 700 thousand. But in order for you to start running, it is not the political party that decides your fate. You can be a favorite of the people, a three-time hero of the world, an academician, people can carry you in their arms, but you will not be given the signatures of 12 deputies from eight municipalities, and you will not be a candidate for governor. I'm not even talking about how the election race will go. This is the first, but that's not all.

And the second. Everywhere there are representatives only of United Russia. Therefore, today the governor, as the leader of the United Russia party, is sitting on the distribution line. People come to bow to him: “Mr. Governor, allow your guardsmen to sign our signatures.” And it turns out absurd. It turns out that either the representative of the United Russia party is a traitor who must sign the enemy’s signature list so that this enemy and scoundrel suddenly, God forbid, competes with his chosen one, with his leader, with his main one, with his boss. Well, doesn't this seem absurd to you?

There will be a choice. 5-7 people, at least. And we will have a kaleidoscope of alternative elections, and we will all speak for someone. But this hypocrisy no longer allows me to go to the polls. This is absurd, this is complete absurdity.

Valentin Filippov: Well, that is, the hero chooses his own dragon with whom he will fight.

Vadim Kolesnichenko: Yes.

Valentin Filippov: Well, or the hero’s dragon.

Vadim Kolesnichenko: The point is that if there are uncontested elections. They won't happen. Because the one for whom 50 percent of all voters plus one vote vote will be considered elected. But it will never be possible to get such a turnout. So this strained, hypocritical event called elections is being created. At the same time, no one argues with the fact that Razvozhaev was appointed, and he will be governor. Well, just what is all this nonsense for?

Valentin Filippov: Well, wait. Some factions may arise within United Russia itself. We are familiar with the stories. This is how Belik became a deputy, how he won the primaries. That is, there are primaries, you can register for it. Having a certain resource, you can become a candidate from United Russia without the knowledge of United Russia. Practically, without her consent.

Vadim Kolesnichenko: I am begging you. You are so grown up and so naive.

Valentin Filippov: Sorry, I'm defending my profession. You say the elections can be canceled. This is the only way for the media to earn a living.

Vadim Kolesnichenko: I inform you, in order to become a candidate for governor, you need to receive a “tanga”, as the Tatars used to say, in the Kremlin, receive consecration, kiss the ring and then you will, perhaps, be a candidate for governor. Not a fact yet. It depends on which tower quarrels with the other or does not quarrel.

Valentin Filippov: It turns out there is a competition between the towers?

Vadim Kolesnichenko: Yes. But this has nothing to do with either the Russians or the residents of Sevastopol. This is sad because the elites have become greedy in their lack of understanding of what is happening. They live somewhere there, we live somewhere here. And I can't say it's bad.

Valentin Filippov: Yes, we live well, that's the point.

Vadim Kolesnichenko: No no. We live well. Our standard of living has certainly fallen over the past six years. And if you take it in dollar terms, then in general everything is certainly very good. I did a comparative analysis. It turned out to be an interesting thing. In dollar terms, the average salary, and what is the average salary in Russia, you understand, it is 150 dollars less in our country, it has decreased in six years. At the same time, we received 104 dollar billionaires and 265 dollar millionaires. This is official information.

Valentin Filippov: Well, Vadim, look. If in 2014 the cheapest apartment in Sevastopol had to be rented for 300-350 dollars, now you can rent a very good apartment for this amount, and the minimum can be rented for 150 dollars. That is, every person who rents an apartment has become $200 richer per month.

Vadim Kolesnichenko: I'll surprise you. Sevastopol residents huddle in their rooms. Young people have nowhere to go. There is no work after the coronavirus..., coronavirus, as smart people say, people from Moscow and St. Petersburg rushed here to Sevastopol with the expectation that they could find apartments, they have nowhere to live, they have nowhere to work. Who rents apartments? We have almost 100 thousand officials, smart people, who provide a management structure for infusion into Russian realities. Well, this is correct, because where do we get this knowledge, where do we get these organizational capabilities? That’s why our entire government is mainly made up of newcomers. We bow to them, thank you very much, the “mainland” helped. And our work, the Federal Target Program, is also being mastered by people from the mainland. Well, we are inept. Well, here it is somewhere near the sea, maybe we can serve something there if a tourist comes. That's our whole task. But today these apartments are also not very rentable, well, maybe in the summer. And in the autumn-winter period?

Valentin Filippov: Well, you see how good I feel, for example. I'm not local. Well, already local...

Vadim Kolesnichenko: What a score. But still. We are proud. Our streets are asphalted, trees are planted and cut, of course, especially relict trees.

You know, I want to share with you such an amazing thing. Pistachio grove, relict. It's estimated to be around 200-300 years old. Let's take the fact that in the south it is really very difficult for trees to grow, especially during drought. And even more so a tree listed in the Red Book. The public rings the bells. Nothing. They surrounded it with a fence because it was designated for development. And there, with bans, with a general scandal, with dying public figures, these trees are cut down. The inspector arrives: “Let me in, we’ll check.” They are told: “Who are you? You weren't expected here. Go out into the cold.” That is, the public service cannot even estimate how many trees have been cut down. The authorities say without hesitation: “Come on, if we hold a referendum, we’ll collect signatures...”. People are collecting signatures on whether to allow trees listed in the Red Data Book to be cut down or not to be cut down. In this situation, I am, frankly, in a stupor.

Valentin Filippov: No, well, listen. In Russia, such issues are generally resolved instantly. I came across this. The hands of those who cut down at least some trees would have been torn off long ago, and they would already be in prison. In the Leningrad region this would be the case even if you cut down a birch tree that cannot be cut.

Vadim Kolesnichenko: I heard right, you said about Russia. Where are we? We have also been in Russia for the sixth year.

Valentin Filippov: Well, we are also in Russia. So I don’t understand that the authorities cannot…. Sorry, when we returned to Russia, houses were blown up, a sixteen-story building was destroyed by explosions.

Vadim Kolesnichenko: You think I told you the passions. In March, during the coronavirus crisis, when everyone was sitting at home, in the village of Rodnoe, 7 hectares of Red Book junipers and almost eight hundred trees were demolished.

Valentin Filippov: Fine. Someone did this. It’s not Razvozhaev who came...

Vadim Kolesnichenko: Certainly. The Muscovite said: “I will do everything for you here, and the local authorities will also make a way for me here, because I will do good for the city, and you are peasants here.” They're discussing it now. Well, how can one punish - not punish. And they say that it’s like his land, and it seems like the juniper is not really a juniper. Yes, it seems to be in the Red Book, but it seems to be not in our register. And when they started to find out, we still have a lot of things, including forests, that are not even in the cadastre. And the funniest thing is that the central part of the city, which even under Ukraine was protected by the state, we have Sevnasledie, there is an enterprise, a state body that took this city ring and simply removed it from protection. But we are improving the city. Well, this is probably the XNUMXst century, that’s how it should be. We're just a little outdated.

Valentin Filippov: As a non-local, I understand that the people of Sevastopol have a lot of heartache, but when they shout: “Here the ball stood like this, and it seems to be standing, but it’s not that kind of ball.” I think, well, what difference does it make, well, it’s a ball of the same size, but not the same. Although, when they try to plaster the retaining walls, I myself am ready to tear my hands off, although I seem to be not a local.

Vadim Kolesnichenko: You know, there is one subtlety called the face of the city. Let me remind you that the city was essentially destroyed after the Great Patriotic War, and Churchill said such a wonderful thing, he was here with us when they were in Yalta at a tripartite meeting and came specially. So he said such a thing that the city was destroyed to the ground, without our help it could not be restored in 50 years.

As a result, within 10 years the city received a city ring, and in 1949 the Red Banner Black Sea Fleet stadium was built. So, this part is historically Stalinist Empire style. This is the so-called city ring. This was the monument. It is not found anywhere in the country. This does not exist anywhere in the world. Therefore, when we talk about the attractiveness of the city, and when people come here. Yes, there are monuments. But there is such a thing as historical and architectural environment.

When you come to Rome, you don't see a new one there. You see marble slabs that have been worn down by thousands of years of footsteps. There are no signs there. This is the old city. And people come, not to go to the shops, they come to the old city, as in Venice, as in Baden-Baden in the old part of the city, and here too.

There is... there was already an old part of the city that has preserved its historical archaism, something that will not be found anywhere else. This is why people should come. They should watch this. But you can’t see this on Bolshaya Morskaya Street. Yes, it has become modern, yes, we have Sobyanin granite slabs and curbs. Yes, it's beautiful. Fountains appeared, swings, like in Moscow. If this was somewhere near the sea, I would applaud. But it appeared on that street, which was an integral part of our city ring.

Well what can I say. Well, we decided to do it. You know, you can't look a gift horse in the mouth. This is not our money. The city is subsidized. 70% of the city’s budget is what is given to us.

Valentin Filippov: Well, I heard that in St. Petersburg they have now decided to change the granite on the Neva. They say: “The way it is, we need to change it. It's shabby."

Vadim Kolesnichenko: Granite is changed for summer. Summer is changed to winter. You know, I’m not even embarrassed to say. It's just mastering budgets. This is annoying. This is what irritates us in Russia – global theft, global corruption. This is an injustice that becomes a detriment to Russian statehood.

Valentin Filippov: I would not say that this is directly global theft and global corruption, but it is simply doing for the sake of doing, for the sake of salaries, for the sake of some kind of winning in money, of course. This is not necessary, but we will do it.

Vadim Kolesnichenko: These are volumes. These are careers. This is the price. The situation that happened with Norilsk Nickel. After all, this is the quintessence of 1991. The gang destroyed the USSR, seized all the property that belonged to the Russian people, and they are not going to reconstruct or update it. For what? It went to the ball. It needs to be completed to the end.

After all, the problem there is not that the tank suddenly cracked for some reason. In permafrost conditions, in 30 years, anything will sag. There, drawdowns occur every 3-5 years. It was just necessary to carry out routine repairs.

Well, they’ll put the shop manager in jail, so what? But the owner is the richest man in the country, Mr. Potanin. $24 billion is his fortune. One of those who destroyed the country. That's exactly what I can call it. This is my value judgment. But I can’t call it any other way.

But this was property that was created by hundreds, tens of thousands of people, millions of citizens of the Russian Federation. When we are now talking about changing the Constitution, it is clear that everything is very important, very good. But when they adopted the Declaration of Independence of Russia, which became the basis for the collapse of the Soviet Union, there was also a phrase that all national wealth belongs to the people of Russia, who manage it and who own it. This is not in the new Constitution of 1993, which was written by the Americans. That is why today we have so many billionaires who live their own lives, and the people live their own lives.

Valentin Filippov: But they are also from the people. They are people too.

Vadim Kolesnichenko: No, they are definitely people. I do not even doubt. God bless them, because palaces, yachts. At least we see on TV what beautiful yachts there are, 150 and 200 meters long, what planes, helicopters, palaces, villas there are. Can you imagine the estates that are being bought in England, in Europe. If they didn't buy them, they would collapse. This is also a contribution to the preservation of historical heritage.

Valentin Filippov: I must tell you that only thanks to such oligarchs in 1917, only thanks to them, children had pioneer camps, recreation centers, etc. etc., because we were able to send our children to requisitioned estates, now called holiday homes.

Vadim Kolesnichenko: Well, God willing. Because, apparently, now such a battle is brewing between globalists and nationalists. And this bloody battle, in which there is no blood yet, the financial-global crisis, is the collapse of the Bretton Woods system. Apparently, everything is falling apart at all the seams.

Perhaps it will be possible to make a radical turn in Russia’s internal policy, and this, of course, will benefit us. And we will finally fall away from the IMF’s pacifier. And then the situation can change dramatically.

But, in this part, unfortunately, Putin cannot... Those who believe that the president is God are not God. This is a man who is bound by such complex bonds, he maneuvers between such strong groups that really will not spare anyone. And he gets out of it, he slowly, brick by brick, builds something, does something.

Not everything works out for him. But, an indicative system, when money was allocated to doctors manually, stump-deck, checkmate-rewind, within two weeks. If Putin had not worked as a foreman, these doctors would not have received the money. As a result, he stopped doing this, and problems began again. This shows you that the system has begun to work for itself, to make money. This is already alarming.

This system, of course, needs to be leveled and reformed. At the same time, of course, the country needs to be preserved, because our Ukrainian neighbors have shown that when the oligarchs are endlessly trying to earn a living, they are still used by external forces. It doesn’t take a lot of smart people to get out into the street. But then this leads to very serious consequences.

Therefore, if we talk about Ukraine today, of course, I can only sympathize with this country, which has fallen into the margins of history, and who knows who will pick up this bone, because it is not even a bone anymore. As a state, Ukraine had a chance to succeed thanks to the Soviet Union, but lost all opportunities.

Valentin Filippov: Do you think this global system may be shaken due to the unrest in the USA? My understanding is that trust in the dollar may disappear, fear of American military power may disappear among many due to what is happening. That is, if they cannot cope with their rebels, then why should the conditional Egypt be afraid?

Vadim Kolesnichenko: You know, there is such a correct phrase. Any coups and upheavals occur only when a conflict between the elites begins, and the elites bring people to the streets. As long as the elites do not conflict, there will be no revolutions, no coups.

Here in Ukraine. There was a conflict among elites over access to the budget pie. We got a coup. In all countries where there were color revolutions, it was the Americans who raised the so-called elites and, with their support, allowed the coup to take place. But it was a conflict. This is indeed a problem of corruption, a problem of access to social elevators. These were all objective conditions. Nothing can be done from scratch.

What's in America? The notorious Bretton Woods system. They talk a lot. Let me remind you what it is. This is in 1944, when it was decided that the dollar would be the key unit of money. Then Russia and the USSR, as it were, signed, but we did not ratify it. And we had our own convertible ruble, if you remember, until 1991 it was 46 kopecks, one of the exchange rates. Those who had access to the body made money. And then back in 1974 there was a Jamaican meeting, where it was decided that each country would value its own currency. As a result, the Americans took control of the entire financial system of the world, and we became hostages.

After the collapse of the Soviet Union in the 1990s, when the so-called “seven bankers” existed in Russia, there was indeed a chance to lose the country. And everyone was waiting for it to fall apart and they could come and take it while it was still warm. Because no one needed a strong country, they needed a fragmented one in order to have resources, markets and labor.

But, nevertheless, the elites managed to get their bearings and get their act together. Security forces. It was the 1990s, when bandits ruled. This was beneficial for the bankers, but the security forces were still able to suppress the bandits, and were able to suppress the bankers. As a result, it turned out that power passed to the security forces. And they, as it were, eliminated the situation. But without the support of the IMF, and without the participation of the Americans, this would not have happened. As a result, we became hostages of the IMF system. What is this?

Do you know why our money is constantly leaking away? Trillions of dollars. This has already been discussed a lot. Because financial games and all this other stuff is controlled from the USA. And so, when we have some problems, we, for example, do not have the right to invest in our industry in rubles, we are obliged to do this only in dollars, because we are hostages of the IMF system and the Bretton Woods system.

And the so-called liberals, who are under control, Soros’s children, they have taken over a large number of positions in our country. These are the people who destroyed the formation of Russia...

Valentin Filippov: They continue to destroy.

Vadim Kolesnichenko: These are all representatives of the Soros nest, representatives of the liberal Bretton Woods system. These are bankers. The World Bank. Let's call it that.

What's happening? In order for us to invest in our economy, we must buy dollars. And we can buy dollars at a very high price. Therefore, today, because of this, 50%, even 60% of our country’s economy is offshored. Even state-owned enterprises have accounts abroad.

Why? Because they, being offshore, can take out dollar loans. They are cheaper than our ruble ones. Paradox. And we are very easy to suppress. As soon as we start to twitch, the ruble exchange rate is simply reduced. And if we start to resist, the so-called agencies that provide ratings, they are also American, belong to the IMF system, they announce that we have low ratings, and that’s all. Our rating is falling, and all the investors who held dollars with us are starting to take them away, because risks are emerging.

What's happening? The collapse of the economy and the devaluation of the ruble. We are very dependent on international monetary policy and the IMF system. Now, if we leave the IMF, of course, this will be a global opportunity for us. And I believe we are getting there.

What's happening in the USA? Thanks to this liberal IMF system, they have covered the whole world with a dollar grid. The crises began a long time ago. And already in 2006 it began to shake.

And when people think that Trump is a fool, he is a nationalist, he is trying to save America, because the global system is collapsing, and America can be destroyed. He very much, thanks to protectionism, thanks to actions that seemed incomprehensible to us, returned most of the industry to the territory of the United States from China.

What has happened in the last 20 years? They had a distribution of responsibilities. The Americans printed money, and China, using this money, developed production, and production went there. And finance, they made money. They just increased their interest rates. And America made money from scams because they didn't produce anything. Why was the product made in China? Because inside America this product would be more expensive. And they were specifically squeezed out by tax policy. Both harmful enterprises and those that require a lot of labor are gone. Therefore, American goods inside America were cheap and Americans felt proud of their country.

There are things in the world economy and in world politics that we cannot cancel. These are the laws of nature, the laws of economics. And now Trump manages to build a new model. Just a few days ago he announced that we are ending wars outside the US perimeters. I don't know how true this is, but it is also very true. He gathers strength, he concentrates. And today he really started to win.

And this is dangerous for bankers. Why? Because if he is elected, and he has every chance of being elected, he will begin an investigation into all votes of no confidence and all fraud in the banking sector. And there will be very difficult landings.

Because this is the murder of a repeat offender, and not a black martyr, the person was in prison 5 times. This is just one of the reasons. But there were reasons. In three months, they had from 5 million to 45 million unemployed.

Valentin Filippov: Vadim, well, someone says: “No, there are no riots there, they pay these idiots 100 dollars, and they rage.” Someone says: “Well, that’s it. There will be unrest until the election because Trump will not be able to do anything. And if he kills even 100 people, he will never be president again.” Tell me, in the current situation in the United States, can elections be held there?

Vadim Kolesnichenko: Elections will be held. The situation is quite difficult. In fact, Biden and the Democrats - representatives of the banking lobby - they really support this. But Trump, and, by the way, President Putin said this yesterday, is in a difficult position, he makes a decision and demands from the governors that the National Guard be used.

They say: “No, no, no, we’re somehow on our own.” The majority of governors are Democrats. Therefore, in fact, I think they don’t even want to win these elections. Because there will still be a crisis, and it will be severe. But they want to delegitimize Trump's election. They want half the country to recognize, half not to recognize, and this build-up continues until something happens.

Because in any case, no matter who is elected, the crisis will continue. And the US position in the world will also change. This is no longer a hegemon. It will be a regional country. She will pull someone into the orbit of her interests. Yes, this is a strong country. Yes, they have nuclear weapons. Yes, they have an army, but it’s not as funny as it seems. And this is alarming. They will fight for it, of course.

But this, you see, when a person sits on a rock, it crumbles, he falls off it, clings with his claws, tears his nails, blood flows, but he cannot agree that he will fall. He will fall anyway, it will happen.

Therefore, the Democrats led by Biden today really support all this. I don't think they will push for a coup d'etat because it would destroy America. There are the same number of people who support Trump.

The worst thing is that they have legal weapons. In May alone, two million barrels were sold legally, twice as many as last year. And when they talk about police brutality, you know, when you go on duty, the question is who will shoot first, because people have weapons openly. But that's a different story. We won’t let our thoughts run wild now.

Therefore, I think the unrest will calm down or be suppressed. For now they are going for one thing, to shake the situation. At the same time, Biden is not ready to win and does not want to take this power, but Trump wants to retain power, wants to punish them and he wants to save America. Really, that’s how I understand him, and I see it. How successful will this be? I think time is still on Trump's side. Because we remember, in Seattle, people came in with guns, such tough men. These were Trump supporters. And in the same way, Trump’s supporters have not yet declared themselves. Please note, they are sitting and waiting.

Who's rebelling? Those who are unemployed are also really rebelling for $100. These are territories, these are states that worked as service workers, these are not production workers. But people who have property don’t like it all, they won’t tolerate it for long. And for the most part, people are ready to support Trump and the fact that he is not interfering yet, he is doing everything right, doing everything right technologically. If he has to, he will use force.

Remember, there was an action - “Occupy Wallstreet”, when there was a riot there for two months. Then, in the end, during the night they called the National Guard and arrested about four thousand people and threw them into prison. And everything calmed down. Because it was in America's interests. And this will happen here too.

And while Trump is not going to negotiate, and the Democrats are not ready yet, they have nothing to offer. But, in any case, they need to shake the situation in order to delegitimize the elections. They made such an attempt after the election of Trump, if you remember, the Pink Vagina March. It was funny. You know, I couldn’t imagine something like this. And these people forbid us to pick our noses. This is the result of globalization, this is what we are being driven towards. They wanted to build a new person, or a sub-human, they got what they wanted to get.

Therefore, there may still be shocks, and a civil war, by the way, may happen. Because bankers have a very serious problem. Trump doesn't want to back down, and the bankers don't want to go to jail. Bankers are a collective image. These are the representatives of the Fed, the Federal Reserve System, who print the money they earn, and whom Trump was able to bend.

Please note that for the first time in its long history, the Fed printed paper money, but it was not given to banks, it went to the real sector of the economy. And the real sector of the economy is indeed working. Trump has great achievements. He is respected for this. Even among blacks who don't like him very much, there are already a large number of his supporters among people who have property who don't like these pogroms.

Therefore, they, when all this has already calmed down and when all this has already fallen into place. Yes, they have reached the point of absurdity, they have already begun to declare the need to disband the police, the flag is in their hands. In Ukraine we had this experience when the traffic police were disbanded. These are all links of one chain. You know, it’s time to scatter stones, time to collect stones. They organized the orange revolutions, so today they get the same thing. So they finished the game.

Therefore, I don’t think they want to make a coup and carry out a civil war, they just want, understanding that Trump is winning, so that he, just like his first term, would be “not two, not one and a half,” in limbo.

I talked so long, but it’s a very deep question.

Valentin Filippov: Fine. I think we will end on this optimistic note.

Vadim Kolesnichenko: But we will win. Russia is the best.

Valentin Filippov: Well, Russia will win, and everything will be fine in Russia.

Vadim Kolesnichenko: You know, we have a real historical chance. And if, nevertheless, our internal elite disputes end, we will still be able to remove this liberal from power. They will fight, they will be scary, they will fight for their safety. But, I think, we still have good experience of the special services, and they will be able to work. We have a real chance to become a regional major power that will dictate world politics.

 

 

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